mesp2k Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 I want to make some windows with this type of sash, (only the lower sash will open.) Just wondering - is there a name for these extended / decorative upper sash stiles? It looks like the upper sash is not suppose open just what I wanted. Thanx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathieB Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 This looks like the tilt-out windows in my real house. The bottom slides up and down and both top and bottom tilt inward for easy cleaning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sable Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Corbel is all I can think of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 It's a sash horn. If you want to stop your top sash from falling down traditionally you would use an inner sash stop, which is a piece of wood that fits into the groove your sash runs up and down. My ancient windows on my RL house have both of these features. In a dollhouse you could just glue the top sash in and add stick on sash horns (look for half or quarter scale corbels) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sable Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Samusa said: It's a sash horn. Wow, I’ve never seen one of these before and very impressed it has a name. In Florida we only have boring metal frames. Nothing decorative with our windows at all. I love this detail though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Sable said: Wow, I’ve never seen one of these before and very impressed it has a name. In Florida we only have boring metal frames. Nothing decorative with our windows at all. I love this detail though. New houses over here are the same Sable and they are practical... but my ancient old house (well ancient by Australian standards 140. ) has all the trimmings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-life madness Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 WOOT WOOT.....the prize goes to Samantha.....Is there an Aussie version of Jeopardy???? No pretty window her either.....they are made of vinyl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Just now, Mid-life madness said: WOOT WOOT.....the prize goes to Samantha.....Is there an Aussie version of Jeopardy???? I'll take architecture for 500 thanks Alex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesp2k Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share Posted April 2, 2018 Thanx all... Sash horn! Thanx, Sam! I have seen this before, but the horn was part of the stile. It's all relative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 39 minutes ago, mesp2k said: Thanx all... Sash horn! Thanx, Sam! I have seen this before, but the horn was part of the stile. It's all relative. Yes traditionalists will insist that it "runs through" as part of the stile. The add on ones are a new invention for looks only, to try and fool people that you have more expensive original sash windows, not a cheap replacement. They do nothing for the strength of the sash as originally intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesp2k Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share Posted April 2, 2018 Sash horn - also called a joggle pointing up on the lower sash...interesting Click image to link to source Sash horn templates: Click image & link to a bit of history on sash horns. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestPaces Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Well! There's my new word for the day! Love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdodyd Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 My new word is window "cill" - I always thought it was window sill. Live and learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestPaces Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Hmm yes Joy, that jumped out at me too, I'd only heard of 'sill'. That goodness for google https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/151767/which-is-correct-cill-or-sill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanaholly Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Well I far prefer joggle to sash horn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesp2k Posted April 4, 2018 Author Share Posted April 4, 2018 Cill vs sill...well I got that window image from a UK site, so maybe its a British thang... Notice: UK = USA Window board or nosing = stool Scotia moulding = apron (not to mention moulding = molding) ...I'm going to try n make a window w/sash horns. I'm looking at this image n think'n the grilles should be very thin on the exterior, almost - like - painted on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sable Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Grills=Muntins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sable Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Please, Try to make your own muntins. Rabbet half way through each connection point and snap them together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestPaces Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Do you do this by hand Sable? Chisel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sable Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 hour ago, WestPaces said: Do you do this by hand Sable? Chisel? I use my mini table saw and bring the blade down to about 2mm or halfway thru the wood. But it can also be easily done with an xacto knife; cut the two sides halfway down and chisel out the center. You want the cutout to be the exact width of the strip wood and everything perfectly square. I line up the boards first, tape them together and draw lines across them and cut them all at once while still taped. This way they are all consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestPaces Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Thanks 3 hours ago, Sable said: I use my mini table saw... Thanks Sable! Can I ask you which type of table saw you have and if you would recommend it? I am looking at the Micromark tilt table saw but there's also the multi saw (jig/scroll). I want to start scrachtbuilding a house after this kit so I'd appreciate your input on necessary - or helpful power tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesp2k Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 Like Sable said - I use a mini table saw to notch the frame/sash. I use a small flat file on the grilles & then glue & clamp them. The grilles are made of stronger maple. (I tried poplar but I kept snapping them.) If your muntins & mullions are fake - meaning not filled with small panes of glass, but instead a full pane of glass - the big window companies have coined the term grille, yes with an 'e'?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sable Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 5 hours ago, WestPaces said: Thanks Thanks Sable! Can I ask you which type of table saw you have and if you would recommend it? I am looking at the Micromark tilt table saw but there's also the multi saw (jig/scroll). I want to start scrachtbuilding a house after this kit so I'd appreciate your input on necessary - or helpful power tools. I use the Micromark tilt saw. It’s the only saw on the mini market that accomplishes compound mitre cuts. Best tool ever! I got it when I decided to scratch build. I also took a wood shop night class at our local high school so I could understand the proper and safe way to use a table saw. Learned some great tips from that class. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sable Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 @mesp2k nicely done! So much better than painting the grilles on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestPaces Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 11 hours ago, Sable said: I use the Micromark tilt saw. It’s the only saw on the mini market that accomplishes compound mitre cuts. Best tool ever! I got it when I decided to scratch build. I also took a wood shop night class at our local high school so I could understand the proper and safe way to use a table saw. Learned some great tips from that class. Good to know! I'll look out for a similar course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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