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If I'm building the house for someone who insists on having all that roof trim & finials,, I also put it on AFTER shingling.  I would remove those finials, give the roof a coat of whatever stain I'm using on the shingles, and shingle the roof up to the top, glue the ridge trim in the gap between the tops of the shingles and then glue the finials onto the shingled roof at either end of the ridge trim, as I did for the Arthur:

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I see the problem. Your slope is off. You are glueing the bottom of each tile to the tile under it rather than the top of each tile to the roof itself. This has thrown off the slope. The top of each tile should be glued to the roof not floating in the air.

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The Arthur (in my picture) and the Storybook Cottage Debbie's build) have the same type of roof trim & finials.  IMO its just easier to remove the finials, shingle the roof,and then glue on the trim & finials.

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16 hours ago, havanaholly said:

If I'm building the house for someone who insists on having all that roof trim & finials,, I also put it on AFTER shingling.  I would remove those finials, give the roof a coat of whatever stain I'm using on the shingles, and shingle the roof up to the top, glue the ridge trim in the gap between the tops of the shingles and then glue the finials onto the shingled roof at either end of the ridge trim, as I did for the Arthur:

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Thank you for your help, unlike the Arthur, on the Storybook Cottage the finials aren't right on the edge

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15 hours ago, havanaholly said:

The Arthur (in my picture) and the Storybook Cottage Debbie's build) hve the same type of roof trim & finials.  IMO its just easier to remove the finials, shingle the roof,and then glue on the trim & finials.

Thank you for your help, if I remove the finials I still have the supports that the finials sit on. I have attached a pic. so you can understand what I mean

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15 hours ago, Sable said:

I would also create a filler piece to complete the roof's peak so it doesn't look disjointed. Then the tiles should lay on it more cohesively.

Make a "V" out of scrap wood and blend in into the peak.

 

Thank you for your help, would you showing me a diagram so I know how to achieve it

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I'm not sure I'm understanding the challenge. Would you not just cut shingles to fit around the tab and finial? I see on the part of the roof in the background that there is a need for a half-shingle to the right of the tab that sticks through the roof to finish off the top row. Would not the same approach work on the part in question?

Sable's suggestion to glue the top of each shingle to the roof instead of gluing the bottom of the shingle to the top of the one below it would cure the gap. Is that hot glue I see? I think if you squeeze a little blob under the shingle, the shingle should be flexible enough to press against the roof to close the gap.

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24 minutes ago, KathieB said:

I'm not sure I'm understanding the challenge. Would you not just cut shingles to fit around the tab and finial? I see on the part of the roof in the background that there is a need for a half-shingle to the right of the tab that sticks through the roof to finish off the top row. Would not the same approach work on the part in question?...

I have a Storybook Cottage in my rehab pile, and I see the finial problem now.  On the one I have the builder simply set the finials on the roof and shingled around them.  When I finally get around to the rehab, I shall remove them, along with the shingles (my rehab Greenleaf kit houses were all built with hot glue).  The gingerbread trim make adorable  houses, but so far none of the houses I've built since they began to talk to me have wanted much of the froufrou.

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See if these pics help.  I added some trim in the front to give it a finished appearance.

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Below, a dowel might be better. As long as you use something that the top of the shingle can rest on.

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Add some trim and it hides all kinds of problems.

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3 hours ago, debbru said:

In the second photo if I replaced the fiil in bit at the top and of the two roofs with glue, do you think it would look ok or not

What about a strip of 1/8" square wood like Sable shows in this photo:

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50 minutes ago, havanaholly said:

What about a strip of 1/8" square wood like Sable shows in this photo:

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Exactly, put a little spackle on it and sand it to form a clean peak.  I would have done this but decided to just cover it with the trim. Either way would solve the problem.

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Repeat the mantra: "Smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors." Do whatever you want to achieve the look you want. There's no right or wrong way. In the end, if you're happy with how it looks, it's all good. :) 

And if you're not happy with how it looks, take it apart and do it another way. 

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13 minutes ago, KathieB said:

Repeat the mantra: "Smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors." Do whatever you want to achieve the look you want. There's no right or wrong way. In the end, if you're happy with how it looks, it's all good. :) 

And if you're not happy with how it looks, take it apart and do it another way. 

AMEN!!!

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6 hours ago, debbru said:

How do you make the shingles line up in the valley 

Draw evenly spaced horizontal lines on the roof parts to guide you in gluing the shingles. If the line marks meet at the valley, then the shingles will line up, too.

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8 hours ago, havanaholly said:

Draw your lines to line the top of each row of shingles allowing for the overlap after the bottom row.  I learned that this was the only way I could keep the rows of shingles straight.

 

8 hours ago, havanaholly said:

Draw your lines to line the top of each row of shingles allowing for the overlap after the bottom row.  I learned that this was the only way I could keep the rows of shingles straight.

Thank you for your reply, would you mind showing me what you mean please

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I don't have a picture of the process.  I lay a shingle along the bottom edge the way I'm going to glue it down and mark along the top with a pencil.  I measure the distance between my pencil mark and the bottom edge of the roof and make more pencil marks at that distance across the width of the roof. I lay a shingle over the top of the first line with the amount of overlap I want, about 3/4 of the shingle's total length, and make a pencil mark along the top edge of that shingle and repeat to measurement and marking that I did for the first row, and draw my line.  I then continue measuring that interval and drawing lines across the roof for the rest of the roof.  When I have a gable or a dormer I put the roof into dry fit with the gable nd/ or dormer roofs and mark the place on those roofs where the lines on the main roof meet them.  Using my carpenter's square to make the line perpendicular at the gable or dormer roof front I draw a line across to the pencil mark; I do double check the measurements on this.

Here is a picture of how the roof looks after the shingles re on (I used construction paper for the shingles):

The sun changed the roof's color

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Oh Oh! I do not follow rules.  I sure didn't spend any time drawing lines. lol.  I started at the bottom and went "straight" across doing both sides at the same time.  I cut the angle of the shingle with scissors.  One half went on the left and one on the right.  I was quite happy with the way my shingles turned out. 3.thumb.JPG.0a6daa6d02b723c8ecf05d9b74cb

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